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The Podcast Host Asks Jesus to Explain Again Because Listeners Want to Understand

Posted by Benjamin Bagocius | Sep 16, 2025 | Poetry | 1 |

The Podcast Host Asks Jesus to Explain Again Because Listeners Want to Understand

I can use a wrench
and fix doors just fine

But the tools that come naturally
to me are introspection
and patience with discomfort

I noticed cracked souls
more than creaking doors

I was ashamed of that skill for a long time
because I didn’t think it was one

I looked so deeply into everyone
I fixated on their fundamental innocence

I knew I was supposed to be mad at injustices like everybody else
but I wasn’t, because everyone—violated and violator—was innocent

We are The Same from eternity’s perspective
Eternity is the Great Equalizer

So I decided to function at the level of eternity

When you see everyone as God underneath fear’s gunk
you can’t take sides. Eternity has no left and right

When they come to kill you, as they did for me,
you see eternity, not men with weapons

I could not fear eternity
coming for eternity

It would’ve been like fish
fearful of water

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Benjamin Bagocius

Benjamin Bagocius

Ben Bagocius, PhD, MFA, writes and teaches across literature, spirituality, and queer thought. He has published two books of poetry, The Canaanite Woman (Wipf and Stock/Resource Publications 2022) and The Gospel According to B. (Unsolicited Press, 2024). His poetry and writing appear in a range of venues, including Journal of Feminist Studies in Religion, Untold Volumes: Feminist Theology Poetry, The Other Journal, and OnBeing. Ben's academic research in literary studies appears in Modernism/modernity, College Literature, Studies in the Novel, Modern Fiction Studies, and more. Ben is founder and editor-in-chief of Soul Forte: A Journal for Spiritual Writing. Please reach out and learn more at BenjaminBagocius.com and InstituteForSpiritualPoetry.com/about.

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  1. Moudi Sbeity
    Moudi Sbeity on September 16, 2025 at 5:29 pm

    Thank you Benjamin for this lovely poem. I feel just as you do, not mad at injustice, just in grief and forgiveness.

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